Hey Rob, Rob Miller wrote: [snip]
sure, i understand what you're saying here. it'd be great if some set of folks who are using the full Z3 app server platform decided to step up, create a website, refine the branding, and just generally breathe life into the project. but, until someone does, we have a weird muddled situation where nobody except the people who are regulars on this mailing list has any idea what is going on with this "Zope" thing.
me, personally, i don't use the Z3 app server platform, so i'm not going to be one of the people who steps up to take charge of it's public face. and, frankly, i don't really care one way or the other whether or not anybody else does it. but you DO seem to care, martijn; you'd like to see that platform get the love, attention, and branding that it deserves. that's great.
but i suggest you'd have more success in that effort if you said things like:
"Hey, all you people out there using the Zope 3 app server thingy... you realize you have a branding problem, right? Now is a perfect time to revisit your platform. Maybe some folks should get together, come up with a catchy name (Rob Miller already suggested 'Zapp'... ;-) , and build a website with some documentation... whaddaya say?"
instead of:
"The whole idea of whatever-Zope 3-is-designated-as just being a 'larger KGS' strikes me as strange. Frankly it strikes me as indicative of what's wrong with this community."
You're right of course, I apologize for going that way. I have little excuse for that. Of course you will see previous thread where I tried to talk about Zope 3 and who wanted to maintain it where I tried the erlier bit - I mean, I've been trying to get that very discussion started. It just seems many of the regular users of Zope 3 are pretty uninterested in that topic (see my Zope 3 team post for an overview), though there were some people who are, and I should focus on them. Regards, Martijn