Hi, I am comparing nose, py.test and zope.testing, and I realized zope.testing does not install a console script at Python level. it is not really a problem when working with a buildout-centric approach (thanks to zc.recipe.testrunner), but how can zope.testing be used with plain Python package ? Is there any installer available, that would allow running zope.testing from the shell ? To advocate zope.testing, I need to be able to demonstrate it can be used like the other tools available out there :D If nothing exists, I would like to suggest adding a setuptools console entry point in zope.testing setup.py file, to get a python script in the $PYTHON/bin folder, exactly like what zc.recipe.testrunner does. It could be called "zope.testrunner" maybe ? (nose= nostests, py.test = py.test) Regards Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Association AfPy | www.afpy.org Blog FR | http://programmation-python.org Blog EN | http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/