Hi there; stumbling over a $§#@ issue, a few questions arose regarding Products: I'm happily zopeing away my time while trying to implement a simple Product; this is group of a keyword-indexed list of incidents; one could easily think of it as some kind of support system. I started to implement this as 3 python classes, namely the group, the keyword and the incident class; the group objects are added via selection list and Add button, so they have Zope-ID's. They contain lists of keyword and incident object instances, with the keyword and incident objects having their own reference lists. All my objects are created persistent. Problems: ======================= Whenever there's a "severe" error (like a syntax error in the Product python code), I see a 'broken Product'. Sometimes I'm able to fix the error and to then reuse my created Product instances and all its subsidiary objects. Sometimes the Product instance will have ceased to exist, which is quite a P.I.T.A. Nevertheless, the Product keeps on showing up as 'Broken', including its out-dated Traceback, until I "delete" it and restart Zope. Q#1: How can I 'mend' a broken Product w/o deleting it? Q#2: How can I avoid the grim reaping of its instances upon tiny errors like a missed out ')' ? Q#3: When I change attributes of e.g. an anonymous keyword object: will this inevitably result in the often_heard_of database inflation 'til next pack day? Flame bait: Q#4: Am I doing The Right Thing (creating 'anonymous' objects), or would a Zopeing One Perfectly Enlightened choose to e.g. create tons of directly accessible objects like 'ID=keyw_adaptec_scsi_controller' or 'ID=incident_1999_05_03_17_42_05_923' ? Currently I'm quite happy using methods mapping object identifiers to objects (like <!--#with "get_kw('scsi_controller')"-->) and then accessing their attributes 1K TIA tom (in heavy reconsideration mode right before the final coding) =========== MfG: Thomas Riedl =========================================================================== triedl@linuxland.de, (+49 89) 99 34 12 - 11, http://www.linuxland.de Stefan-George-Ring 24, 81929 München