At the risk of going down in history (and Google Searches) as the man who supports ZClasses, I think that someone deserves to come to their defense. I think that there is a different tool for every job. Sometimes I think Plone is the best solution, sometimes Zope 2 is the best solution. Sometimes Zope 3is the best solution, and sometimes ZClasses are the best solution. When are ZClasses the best solution? Frequently a ZClass is the fastest way to build an application. I can put up a simple list of types in ZClasses and DTML so incredibly quickly. Frankly developing a file system based python application is just way too much overhead for bringing up simple web applications quickly. In fact I have pushed ZClasses pretty far. If you are building an application, and you are a single developer, and you are comfortable with a tree based data model, then ZClasses is probably still your fastest development tool. I was recently told that ZClasses now work with Zope 2.8.* Maybe it was 2.9.* Frankly I am not smart enough to understand the recent evolution of the Zope framework. But I suspect that ZClasses can be made to work for a while more on top of the newest releases of Zope, and that is good enough for me. Someone will be motivated enough to make it work, and I will take advantage of the resulting open source code. I also think that there is a bright future for ZClasses, in the niches that I am interested in. Many years ago, I used to use versions to develop production and development code on a single server. I was in heaven. It was so easy. It was so productive. Then came zcatalogs and all of that broke. Pretty soon, I think someone, maybe even me, will be motivated enough to make ZClasses work with MVCC. Multivalued Concurrency Control, so that we can get rid of our development servers, and as a single developer just run a simple cheap development/production server. Life will be great. But I see a brighter future for ZClasses as well. The demand for my services is booming. I have way more business than I can handle. Someone recently did a search for a plone resume on Google, and I got 6 of the top placements. We have heard of search engine optimization, but this is just crazy good. Of course managing a staff of recruiters is the hardest part. So soon I will need to run multiple servers with data being shared among them. I will need a distributed schema, where people enter their resumes on one job board, and have them distributed to several other job boards. Zope 3 has a single server schema, but I have no idea if I will be able to expand it to a distributed Schema. With Zope 2, and ZClasses, it is very clear to me how I can build a distributed schema that moves classes around between servers. Most of the work is already done for me, another huge chunk, the schema part, I have done. So I think Zclasses serve my needs wonderfully. And I think that I can upgrade them with MVCC to make a single developer even more productive. And I think that I can build powerful distributed applications on top of them. That will be so much easier than trying to build and move python code on the file system and restarting dozens of servers. And it only takes a few of us using ZClasses, and making money off them to keep ZClasses quite alive. So I hope that this defense of ZClasses encourages you not to abandon them. Use whichever tool is best for your application, and trust that others will make the same wise decisions. Flame Shield is now up. I look forward to your replies. Regards Chris