Hello Florent Guillaume and , Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 3:54:26 PM, you wrote: FG> If you go to the control panel of a running Zope, you'll see it display FG> "Running For" with the correct number of seconds. So there's obviously an FG> existing way for the server to know when it was started, just look how the FG> control panel does it. Thank you, looks like the initialization time of the App.ApplicationManager.ApplicationManager class. Hello Lennart Regebro, Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 3:55:57 PM, you wrote: LR> But you say you want to know when the server was started. How does LR> that come into any of the above things? None of those have anything to LR> do with how long the server has been running. LR> You are just giving us small disassociated pieces of information, and LR> then you assume that we should read your mind for the rest of the LR> needed information. It doesn't work like that. LR> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Thank you for the url, and sorry for my english, I just want to say that variable 'Zope2.Startup.started' is always False. This variable is used for example here http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailmanager/mailmanager/MailCheckThrea... some times ago. But now this is deleted file. -- Best regards, Victor Safronovich NauMen.NauDoc.SoftwareDeveloper http://www.naumen.ru