OK, I am working on a CVS dump from yesterday of Zope2. I am upgrading from 2.1.6. I did so by making new folder, copying products that I actually used over, and building Zope, then bringing over the Data.fs. Oh, and ZEO is there too (Damn that thing is cool!). And now I have a very weird problem... I have a couple of ZProducts that are o _not_ listed as broken in Control_Panel/Products o Instances of them appear as "This object from the unknown Product is broken!" Here is the kicker: I can add new instances of them, and they too magically appear as broken, with no complaints about creating them! Also, I can't seem to pack the database. it claims it has already been packed to a later date. This db hasn't been packed in at least a month. ISTR something about the last one, so I'll be hunting the list archives, but if someone has a moment, and the answer, don't be afraid to shoot it my way. TIA, Bill -- "Linux: the operating system with a CLUE... Command Line User Environment". seen in a posting on comp.software.testing