Hi, I've run into a really annoying bug and was wondering if it is fixed in the CVS version (I don't have direct internet access to check). Create a new Product containing a Zclass subclassing from the DTML Document or Method. Add a Python or DTML Method which does: This document is <dtml-var id> Then, add an instance of this Zclass. When you VIEW it you get: This document is <cstring ...> AND when you edit it the ID is empty. All references to the ID and related internal variables return CSTRING or cause tracebacks. How do i get the REAL id? Also, I can get the unprocessed content via self.read() but how do I get the processed data? repr, `..` and index_html all give weird tracebacks. This is stopping me from finishing a JavaScript XMLWidget for XMLWidgets release 2 so any help would be greatly appreiated. Just a thought - what about adding a Storage/Zclass mixin class for people doing combo Product / ZClass systems. Hence, the ZClass gets stored within a ZODB in the appropiate Product directory hence reducing installation hassles. This also means we can just zip up the Product directory to automatically include ZClasses [looks at the ZODB experts on Zope-dev]. Cheers, Anthony Pfrunder