Hi there, Because my suggestions (besides the fork issue) as a ZTK user/contributor were scattered through the thread, here's a handy summary: * please construct guidelines for updating the ZTK when making a release of a package that's managed by the ZTK project. It's useful people test their changes within the ZTK. * please let these guidelines not block most updates by most people most of the time; it should be easy to update the ZTK. Gatekeepers tend to slow things down a lot, and we don't have them for most Python code. * there's a 'checknew.py' script to see whether there are releases newer than the ZTK. I'd be useful if this were integrated in the standard ZTK buildout.cfg so you just get a 'bin/checknew'. It'd also be nice if that were reusable by other toolkit projects. * (new idea) similarly it'd be nice if there were a script integrated that could check which binary egg releases exist for Windows (32 bit, 64 bit, Python version). Right now BlueBream is maintaining a list here: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/StatusOfWindowsBinaryPackages * Please update the ZTK documentation about the status of the ZTK steering group and the ZTK release team. It's unclear to newcomers such as myself. * In general it'd be useful if the release team recorded decisions in the ZTK documentation. It's confusing to have to go look for them in mailing list archives and people tend to forget or reinterpret decisions as time goes by. Regards, Martijn