I was on the PyCon-PC this and last year. Unfortunately, I had less time this year, and the workload was higher, and the time shorter, so they were forced to have many meetings in the middle of the night, my time. So I spend way too little time on it. That pretty much meant that the only other guy doing Zope on the program PC is Brandon, and he is a busy guy too. The result of this was that yesterday it looked like almost no Zope talks would be accepted, because during the last weeding out of talks (there was WAY too many really good talks this year) they all ended up in different groups, and got voted out. This is mainly because those who did the grouping didn't understand that talks about to various Zope-related technologies like Repoze, BFG and the component architecture are at least somewhat related, so they ended up in different groups, and then they don't understand why things like component architectures are important, so the talks get voted out. I was unfortunately on a Plane during the last meeting yesterday, back home from the PloneConf, so I wasn't on that meeting, but what I gather from todays emails and the stats on the talks site, the situation has been ameliorated, so there will be at least some Zope talks, I think. But it was a close call. What to do? Easy: We need more people from the Zope community on the PyCon program committee. Next year, when the talks for 2011 gets decided, there seriously have to be more Zope people in the PC, especially people in US timezone and involved with or closely following all the new things that's happening. The Zope community is pushing a lot of the development in the Python world and is continuing to be the source of much innovation, we shouldn't let that run out in the sand just because the rest of the Python community lags behind us a year. ;-) Obviously, if you join next year, you should still keep a cool head and look at it objectively, we do not want the PC being swamped by people who only will vote for Zope talks. We just need a couple of more people who know what the Zope/BFG/ZTK talks are about and have time to sit through the meetings (who are on IRC). Besides, even though the PC was much bigger this year, the number of submissions was much greater too, so the workload was still too high, so the PC will most likely still need more people in general. ---------- I will also say, that if your Zope-related talk isn't accepted (I think the notifications of who are accepted and who aren't are going to go out soon) do not feel disheartened. There was way more submissions this year. Last year, we only needed to cut a few high quality talks (I seem to remember that it was three). This year, loads of them has been cut. I think there was almost the same amount of talks deemed worthy of PyCon this year as it was submissions in total last year. Last year, about two thirds was accepted, this time less than half, despite what I feel is a generally higher quality of submissions. Getting a talk accepted to PyCon 2010 was doubtlessly hard, and many good talks has been rejected. And I'm not saying that to make people feel good, but because it is true. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64