You might remember me, I've been a big Zope fan since ZTables, and have recently been asked "Why Zope?". The project is commited to PostgreSQL and leaning toward PHP. Here's the project requirements for a softwre company: Hardware Compatability List Software Compatability List Store/ECommerce User tracking and services like Pay for downloads Upgrades if they have a serial number paid up Billing/Invoicing for corporate accounts Inventory tracking CRM/Sales functions They don't see that Zope's built in security machinery would beat something home brewed for what they expect to need it for. Plus the over head of running Zope instances is greater than PHP scripts. What are the arguments for Zope in this context? All my best, -- Jason Spisak Marketing Director, Lycoris jspisak@lycoris.com, http://www.lycoris.com Desktop/LX: Familiar. Powerful. Open. +1 425 869-2930 voice, +1 425 671-0504 fax