hello to all i posted this on zope this morning and it appears that i'm not the only one with this problem, so i thought - give it a try at zope-dev: zope 2.4b1 doesnt start in manual mode from the cmd prompt - it exits without any output its no problem with ports or other zopes, because in such a case it would at least give me a line feedback i tried with the included python.exe and with the one in my path (activepython 2.1 build 210 from active state) i have installed various 2.3x versions parallel but this shouldnt make a problem because till now there has never been a problem in manual mode i don't want to deinstall my other versions because i want to have a 2.31 version on my production machine any suggestions ?? thanks in advance - bernd