From: "JB" <jimbag@kw.igs.net>
I suppose this may sound crazy, but for me, the ultimate development environment would allow me to do most everything outside the browser, and just call the browser for viewing. I've managed to add XML-RPC and WebDAV to ZopeEDIT and can manage Folders now (create/edit/delete) and deal with a few attributes of Objects (title,id) (I've not released yet). For me, the clincher with this, is being able to use my own editor and tools (templates, other text processing python modules, cpp, m4), to program Zope. I can do with with every other language I develop in except Zope and this is the most frustrating aspect of trying to write a Zope app as none of the tools I have built over the years are available to me. I personally find this a serious productivity decrease. So, I guess what I'm afraid of is that putting the management aspects into another browser will be different, but will really just be the same in that it will still exclude the tool base I'm used to for developing. And I'm also afraid that I'll plow ahead with ZopeEDIT and find that 'Zope Studio' in fact DOES address my concerns and my time will have been wasted ;) So I'm trying to get a handle on what sort of projects are happening, whether they meet my needs, whether I can contribute to them to help them meet my needs, or whether some folk are interested/willing to contribute to a 'non-browser' approach to an IDE. Any comments, suggestions, declarations of insanity are most welcome.
Check out the plans for Zope Studio: http://www.zope.org/Resources/Mozilla/ZWiki/ZopeStudioVision http://www.zope.org/Resources/Mozilla/Projects/MozillaOME You'll notice that the plans include support for external editors. If you are interested in Zope Studio development, join the mailinglist: http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-mozilla We would also like to hear about other IDE development there. Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:mj@digicool.com | Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ | The Open Source Web Application Server ---------------------------------------------