Hi there! Finally I managed to get a basic understanding of how to do things with ZPatterns ;-) So seems quite cool :) (and hopefully I find some time to write some basic howto about it) But I have some little questions: 1. Is it possible to retrieve the set of known IDs from a specialist? Or would I need to add my own method to it which does this (and change it accordingly if I switch to another storage method)? 2. Is it planned to provide something like a virtual folder which acts like a normal object manager but is controlled via ZPatterns (so actually something like Folder with Customizer Support just without the "anchor" in ZODB. (would also require some mechanism asked for in 1.) 3. Is it possible to use ZPatterns also without some exta ZClass defined in a Product? At least if I don't need methods for my objects but simple want to define the attribute they know. Would be nice as I could then hold everything together in one place (the specialist that is) without requiring to install something also in the Products folder of the Control Panel. That's it for now, I will keep experimenting then.. :) cheers, Christian -- Christian Scholz MrTopf@IRC COM.lounge http://comlounge.net/ communication & design cs@comlounge.net