I upgraded to 2.7b3, and it looks quite solid! I have one problem, though: I can't find the "full tracebacks" that include __traceback_info__ anywhere! I used to start up Zope in debug mode, so I'd get everything sent to stdout. Now, stdout just contains some startup stuff; doesn't even contain simple tracebacks. The event log contains tracebacks, but it doesn't contain __traceback_info__. I'm not sure if it contains the __traceback_supplement__ stuff? On a related note, perhaps it would be more clear what got sent to stdout if stdout was just another log handler, and so it could be configured the same way other logs are configured, e.g., <logger event> <stdout> level INFO </stdout> <stderr> level WARN </stderr> </logger> Bye, -- Bjorn