Hi, I'm trying to work out the best way to check for and report errors when DataSkin objects are created/edited, but I'm having a lot of problems. For form validation, Zope's build-in constraints are pretty useless... things like ValueHandler are a little better, but IMO not good enough. When a user types incorrect data in a form, I don't want to display a page with a list of errors and say "click Back to fix your errors". I want to return the form, with a list of errors and the bad fields highlighted. So I need to perform field checks in the form action method and in case of errors call the original form, giving it an error list. I know that to ensure that object data is always valid I should validate the object in a SkinScript, using WHEN OBJECT ADDED,CHANGED call self.validate(), and raise an exception in validate in case of a problem. But this can't deal with returning the original form. It can only display error pages, and to display nicely formatted error pages it has to return a DTML Method so I can use dtml-raise, rather than directly do raise in validate. So I'm looking at a validate method for use at commit time, a show_errors DTML Method, and a validate_form to call from the form action method... The validate_form method is defined in the DataSkin class. But it is also used when a new object is created from a form, so it needs to be called from a Specialist before the object is created, so I need to import it in the Specialist. But this method might use other methods of the DataSkin class, so I need to import those too... So, to sum up, I need a method used in commit time, that renders a DTML method to raise an error message, another method to verify form submissions and return the form with error messages, and I need to import that method and all other methods it uses into the Specialist. This seems too much work... Can anyone suggest a simpler approach (one that still retains the ability to return the original form in case of errors)? TIA, Itai -- -- Itai Tavor -- "Je sautille, donc je suis." -- itai@optusnet.com.au -- - Kermit the Frog -- -- -- -- "If you haven't got your health, you haven't got anything" --