Am Tue, 05 May 2009 15:45:31 +0200 schrieb Martijn Faassen: [...]
As I pointed out, it is effectively inaccessible for Plone users anyway, as Zope 3 is already installed. You *cannot* mix Zope Toolkit and Zope 3 libraries just like that and expect anything to work.
I dont expect them to work. I try an test. And if it works, why not? Its not that painful. [...]
I don't believe in this Plone (for *existing Plone releases*) user base anyway, so I don't think it's getting smaller.
Oh, I dont believe in much, but I know a good bunch of active developers and interators using Plone this way.
If we'd have released a Zope 3.5 that didn't have Python 2.4 support, would you have complained that you cannot use Zope 3.5 with an existing Plone release?
If I'd have read the dicussion at the right time: yes.
This is the same as trying to use Zope 3.4 and Zope 3.3 components together (though the changes from Zope 3.4 to the Toolkit are *bigger* as we move things around). It *might* just work in some cases, but it's unlikely it will.
Using Zope 3.4 within Zope 3.3 (like Zope 2.10) works almost fine.
I will note that Grok 1.0 won't work with the Zope Toolkit either; we're sticking with Zope 3.4. Only after 1.0 will we go over to the toolkit.
Well, Grok is not as complex as Plone is. Also it has a smaller user-base.
It is, but again, it's just wishful thinking that the toolkit libraries as they are released today will work in combination with a existing release of Plone.
As a whole: No. Little parts: Yes. And yes, I wish it would be much simpler to use ZTK-bits in Plone. regards Jens -- Jens W. Klein - Klein & Partner KEG - BlueDynamics Alliance