I agree, I've been lookin for a "Zope site design guidelines" like chapter in Zope site when I was a newbie but did not find consistent and comprehensive information. You can only find various Howto in that matter. Please correct me if I'm wrong. So I made some spaghetti sites in my first 2 months of Zope practice before knowing how to place the "best objects at the best place". --Gilles ----- Original Message ----- From: "seb bacon" <seb@jamkit.com> To: <cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org> Cc: <zope-dev@zope.org> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope vs. Cocoon ... : : What Zope lacks IMO is good best practice guidance and detailed : developer documentation, though it's getting there now. Without best : practice guidance, developers tend to choose the first development model : they see, which at the moment tends towards heaps of quick-and-dirty : through the web hacks and tricks. This does give the illusion of Zope : being an 'environment' rather than a 'framework', and encourages : Zopish-looking sites, too.