Hi everybody, (I did ask this question to the ZPatterns list, but without any answer. So I hope one better luck here.) I finally got the opportunity to use ZPatterns in a project and am quite please with the result (after the mandatory wrestling :) Anyway, I would like to use both ZPatterns again, as well as LoginManager, but I feel somewhat of a doubt what they will be around in the future and in Zope 3. So, are they? Or what I really want to know, is it safe to base my applications on ZP and/or LM or is it something I'm going to regret? Best Regards, Johan Carlsson torped strategi och kommunikation ab johan carlsson johanc@torped.se birkagatan 9 113 36 stockholm västmannagatan 67 http://www.torped.se http://easypublisher.torped.se