From: Rik Hoekstra <rik.hoekstra@inghist.nl>
There _was_ a patch available (can't find it now, search the maillist archives)
Read my postings around April. I include two of my messages. The patch was submitted in March. I believe it even went into the Collector. But Digicool people simply refused to update the ZODBC database adapter, citing they are too busy and that for patches they need to make things really sure. Fine, in between March and September (6 months, that is), they have not been able to include the patch in the release. Meanwhile, many people have downloaded and used ZODBC. I don't understand. Is it so hard to include the patch? 6 months is more than enough time to determine that this patch does not cause viruses or major catastrophes. If there have been disasters using this patch, people would have yelled loud and clear. I have submitted bug a report to Java's Bug Parade before, and they got back to me about 6 months later, long after my project was killed. :) Now this bug is taking about the same time. :) I am impressed. What's the fun of making _every_ newbie going through the same ritual of posting to the newsgroups and get the problem fixed only 3 days later? Is it fun to waste so many people's time??? (OK, sarcasm aside, isn't time to do something about it?) :) It _is_ a carcass piece of software until someone resuscitate it. Hung Jung ===================================================== Message: Re: [Zope] Z ODBC Error Value: unpack sequence of wrong size Author: "Hung Jung Lu" Date: 04/06 04:01 AM --- In zope@egroups.com, "Hung Jung Lu" <hungjunglu@h...> wrote:
--- In zope@egroups.com, Graham Chiu <anon_emouse@h...> wrote:
Ioan Coman <ioan@usa.net> writes
I'm using Zope 2.1.5 (binary release, python 1.5.2, win32-x86) ... Zope Error Error Type: ValueError Error Value: unpack sequence of wrong size
OK, I search a bit more on e-groups, and found out a patch to fix this problem. Please visit: http://www.zope.org/Members/Duncan/zodbcda_patch The ZODBC adapter actually works fine. It's just that the Test tab does not work. Hung Jung ===================================================== Message: Re: [Zope] Why so many problems with database adapters? Author: "Hung Jung Lu" Date: 04/07 12:51 AM
From: Michel Pelletier <michel@digicool.com> Tino Wildenhain wrote:
If not, so we can all hope and wish, but not _demand_ to get the fixes :-)
I certainly wouldn't _demand_ fixes for something that is _free_. I am not that silly a person. :) But I see over and over again newbies (including myself) going through the same pain that others have already gone before. Some of the nicer people have digged into the problems and FIXED them with a patch. Sadly, I had to repeat the pain simply because I was NOT aware of the patch! So, the question is simply: do we want all future users to go down the exact same path, or do we want to save them a little bit of time and stress, and make Zope a better brand name?
in CVS? Doubt it. Approaching the rat hole at every increasing speed.
I know. But a simple Wiki page with a simple HTTP link to a person's personal homepage will allow you to try his/her patched version at your own risk, without Digicool's integrity being involved at all. It's like a tree with a central trunk, if you know what I mean in Revision Control Systems like VSS. The branches eventually die out, but before the trunk gets a newer version, the users can try the patched versions from the branches. The patched versions don't even need to sit on zope.org website, they could sit in each individual home site (there are so many free web hosting sites out there.)
Right now people can send a patch to the collector, but it takes us time time test it and understand it, especially if it's a deep issue.
That's totally fine and understandable. But we need to figure out a way for people to be aware of the bugs and patches right at the moment when they download a product. This way, Digicool can even afford to release a new version only once every 6 months, say. :) Also, over time, if an outside person starts to develop a credible branch, and Digicool is too busy to take care of the trunk, we'll know it's moment to either (1) outsource the product, or (2) push the branch into zope.org and make it the trunk.
I vote Wiki.
Sounds good. Anything that allows user to add HTTP links is good enough. If they can scribble comments, so much the better. :) regards, Hung Jung _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.