Hi Martin
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: zope-dev-bounces+dev=projekt01.ch@zope.org [mailto:zope-dev-bounces+dev=projekt01.ch@zope.org] Im Auftrag von Martin Aspeli Gesendet: Montag, 13. April 2009 13:07 An: zope-dev@zope.org Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] who wants to maintain Zope 3?
Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:
-1 from my standpoint. Two of my projects are fully based on the Zope 3 server, and switching to something else would be quite some pain.
FWIW, I think you're absolutely right. We can't just declare it "dead" because it is convenient to our goal of having clearer definitions about what we're working with.
A piece of open source software is dead if no-one uses it and no-one maintains it. At least then, existing users can't count on bug fixers or security fixes.
I think Martijn's point in starting this thread was to try to identify who wants to maintain Zope 3 as an app server and as something that gets released going forward. Let's give those people a chance to respond.
Declaring things dead has a tendency to become a self-fulfilling prophecy, and probably not something we should do lightly.
This sounds much better then the earlier mails ;-) I'm willing to help to find a way to move the old code parts to a newer and better concept. Note, I don't use this code in my own projects and I don't propose to do that just for fun. But if someone proposes to do it, I'm willing to help. I think we have to support a smooth migration path for the old ZMI views and we can't just skip them. Releasing a Zope 3 app server is another part. I'm not sure if Stephan Richter, he told once, will support it for the future? I still think the Grok, Repoze, Plone, Zope 2 and Zope 3 developer should talk together and find a concept and see how we can find a code base which will fit for each other. This probably only means that we move the zmi part out of the existing zope.* and z3c.* packages. And each project could offer a own management concept and views for the same code base. Regards Roger Ineichen
Martin
-- Author of `Professional Plone Development`, a book for developers who want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book
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