2 items: 1. how does everyone feel about adding the following boilerplate to all occurences of Products/__init__.py to enable the easy creation of Product eggs? try: __import__('pkg_resources').declare_namespace(__name__) except ImportError: from pkgutil import extend_path __path__ = extend_path(__path__, __name__) 2. Could we consider this a defect so it could be added to relavent maintenance branches(provided no one sees any harm in #1. I mainly care about zope 2.9) 3. daniel nouri has made a patch for the test runner to enable a flag optionally add all packages on your path to the test search path. I consider this a defect in the current test runner that makes working with eggs and 2.9 or 2.10 rather cumbersome. could we consider adding this or some other solution to this problem? http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2276 -w -- ------ d. whit morriss ------ - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - "If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all" Dr. Edgar Spencer, Ph.D., 1995