+-------[ Joachim Schmitz ]---------------------- | Hi, | | thanks for the tip, but it didn't solve the problem. But I found a | workaround after trying many different things, it's a hack but it works :-) It's probably something in your header. An exception is being thrown by an acquired object, which is a level above your acl_users folder, or during the display of the loginform. If your loginform includes your header, you need to make sure that View perms are explicitly allowed for your header (and for anything else called by your loginform). This is definitely a permissions based problem. You just have to work out which object it is that has the wrong permissions on it. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au|