Don't think I was the _only_ intended recipient for this ;-) cheers, Chris Lennart Regebro wrote:
From: "Chris Withers" <chrisw@nipltd.com>
Lennart Regebro wrote:
I think there is no doubt that Zope 3 will have a higher learner threshold than Zope 2. After all, you can just compare the Zope 3 tutorial with the BoringProduct explanation. There will be more things to understand before you can make a complete product.
If that _is_ true, then Zope 3 _will_ fail.
Not at all. Even if it takes a day or two to create a product for Zope 3 that is not a problem. That is just raising the initial learning step to what any other environment has.
From: "Hannu Krosing" <hannu@tm.ee>
Does most VisualBasic developers _really_ understand VisualBasic ?
Probably not. But actually, how long does it take to learn how to create a product in visial basic? It sure isn't as fast as for Zope 2.
Remember, i'm talking about the initial step here. Not how long it takes to be *great* at it, but how long it takes before you can create a simple product.
Ken Manheimer <klm@zope.com>
I think the Zope 3 tutorial gets you seriously acquainted with a significant portion of the Zope 3 architecture, as well as its use, and i don't have the impression that the BoringProduct explanation equips you near as well to understand the Zope 2 architecture. I may be wrong, though (i'm in transit, can't check right now).
Thats absolutely true, but at the same time, you do need to have some hum of the things the Zope3 tutorial teaches to be able to create a product. You need to know what an interface is, and you need to understand what you must have in the XML description and so on.
Still, i believe that many people find Zope 2 more difficult than it could be, and that Zope 3 as a system is *much* more comprehensible than Zope 2 - more regular and clean - and that will make all the difference in the world.
I agree 100%. If the initial step is 2 hours or two days doesn't make much difference. Only computer journalists demand that you should be able to get started in no time. Everybody else understands the need for understanding before you can do something serious.