I cannot slice context.REQUEST.PARENTS The reason I want to do this is to travel up the URL tree for a breadcrumb navigation do-hicky. I want to slice it so I can make a copy because if I just do ...reverse() on it, I screw up everything afterwards. It says I'm unauthorized (Guarded.py __careful_getattr__) so I assume this is a feature. I suppose I can just .reverse() it back again at the end, but it seems.....wrong some how. Attached is my code at the moment...it sucks, I know. This is python project numero uno and zope project duo... If anyone has a better example of how to hand text (I'm using buff and returning it) back, I'd appreciate it. I'm much to tired, so off I go to bed... Ciao! -- Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft ... and the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor. -- Wernher von Braun The Doctor What: <fill in the blank> http://docwhat.gerf.org/ docwhat@gerf.org KF6VNC