And the Loginmanager again. That traceback raises after putting a LoginManager into a folder, adding my customized functions and entering it. Any Ideas? This seems very strange to me. Traceback (innermost last): File /home/zope4/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 223, in publish_module File /home/zope4/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /home/zope4/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 226, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: LockableItem) File /home/zope4/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 162, in publish File /home/zope4/lib/python/ZPublisher/BaseRequest.py, line 447, in traverse File /home/zope4/lib/python/Products/LoginManager/LoginManager.py, line 237, in validate (Object: ProviderContainer) File /home/zope4/lib/python/Products/LoginManager/LoginMethods.py, line 243, in findLogin (Object: PlugInBase) File /home/zope4/lib/python/Products/LoginManager/LoginManager.py, line 194, in getItem (Object: ProviderContainer) File /home/zope4/lib/python/Products/ZPatterns/Rack.py, line 59, in getItem (Object: ProviderContainer) File /home/zope4/lib/python/Products/LoginManager/UserSources.py, line 517, in retrieveItem (Object: ProviderContainer) File /home/zope4/lib/python/Products/ZPatterns/Rack.py, line 235, in _RawItem (Object: ProviderContainer) File /home/zope4/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py, line 481, in _setId (Object: BetterLocalRolesMixin) File /home/zope4/lib/python/Products/ZPatterns/DataSkins.py, line 254, in __set_attr__ (Object: BetterLocalRolesMixin) File /home/zope4/lib/python/Products/ZPatterns/DataSkins.py, line 240, in _canonicalForm (Object: BetterLocalRolesMixin) KeyError: _v_parent -- Christian Theune - ct@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co.kg - schalaunische strasse 6 - 06366 koethen/anhalt tel.+49 3496 3099112 - fax.+49 3496 3099118 mob. - 0178 48 33 981 reduce(lambda x,y:x+y,map(lambda x:chr(ord(x)^42),tuple('zS^BED\nX_FOY\x0b')))