as a data point, here is browser data for one of the sites i own. the data is produced by webalizer. NS4 is becoming negligible:: Top 25 of 73 Total User Agents # Hits User Agent 1 47194 81.46% Micro$haft Internet Exploder 2 16780 28.96% MSIE 6.0 3 16273 28.09% MSIE 5.5 4 11863 20.48% MSIE 5.0 5 7579 13.08% Netscape 6 3133 5.41% Mozilla/5.0 7 2669 4.61% Mozilla/4.7 8 1926 3.32% WebCopier v2.5 9 1868 3.22% MSIE 4.0 10 753 1.30% Mozilla/3.01 (compatible;) 11 304 0.52% MSIE 5.1 12 280 0.48% Mozilla/4.6 13 279 0.48% Mozilla/4.0 14 233 0.40% Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html) 15 220 0.38% Mozilla/2.0 16 186 0.32% Mozilla/4.5 17 174 0.30% Opera/6.0 18 134 0.23% Ask Jeeves)" 19 78 0.13% ia_archiver 20 53 0.09% Mozilla/3.0 21 47 0.08% MSIE 3.0 22 39 0.07% MSIE 4.5 23 37 0.06% eCatch/3.0 24 35 0.06% MSProxy/2.0 25 31 0.05% Szukacz/1.5 (robot; www.szukacz.pl/jakdzialarobot.html; szuka On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 12:47 , Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
Stephan Richter writes:
I think we can safely rely on CSS. Common, Zope 3 is a new product, and if someone needs to make it backward Browser-compatible, he can always implement a less fancy CSS-free skin.
Argh!
I can hear Guido tell us about his Netscape 4 now... There are still a *lot* of people using that one and it's ilk. Browsers at that level know just enough CSS to make it painful. ;-( I've spent more time making the Python docs work in NS4 than making them look good in more modern browsers, and the more advanced efforts I've made can't go in because the older browsers just don't come close!
-Fred
-- Fred L. Drake, Jr. <fdrake at acm.org> PythonLabs at Zope Corporation
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