Hi, On 05.07.2009, at 07:06, Lennart Regebro wrote:
2009/7/5 Stephan Richter <srichter@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu>:
To be honest, I am very disappointed by this list. It is totally meaningless to me since it does not represent any list with which I can build even a fairly simple application today. There is not a single z3c package in there.
As I understand it, ZTK is not meant to build applications on. It's meant to build application servers on. ZTK is supposed to be tha base on which we build things like Grok, Plone, and yes, Zope 3.
I'd like to mention repoze.bfg here. It takes a fairly small set of zope.* packages. What the ZTK is will be finally defined by the included packages. From a user's (developing with ZTK) perspective, I'd appreciate a small good documented well tested and stable set of tools to build web applications on regardless of which server or which db I want to use. Christian's list represents that very well, IMHO I'd kick a few packages I don't use at all. And where is zope.catalog? BTW z3c.* packages in the ZTK would baffle me a lot, OTOH renaming z3c packages just to fit into the ZTK seems a bit unorthodox. Very important are the tools and best practices surrounding the ZTK. Where do I start to get a state of the art but simple and inviting - from a developer's perspective - web application? Regards, Tobias