Zope has been Hijacked! Save Zope!
Thanks Andrew for a heartfelt description of what is happening here. It is clear that unlike the other freeware products like Lenux, JBoss.., Zope has lost all of the advantages of being a freeware product. What I find sad is that the extreme commercialization of Zope is hurting Zope- this discussion list is censored in a way that would not be allowed for most commercial products. I posted a serious bug- Zope throws an exception after trying to resolve a transaction conflict three times. The discussion was quickly moved line and I was told this is not a problem- Not a problem? Give me a break!! This nearly killed my application and cost me several weeks of work. Those who know of these problems can write clean applications but these issues are kept strictly confidential. To the *TRUE* open source community I would just say let us reclaim Zope-even if it means branching. Clark
I posted a serious bug- Zope throws an exception after trying to resolve a transaction conflict three times. The discussion was quickly moved
Posted to where? I see this message in neither Zope-Dev@ nor Zope@.
line and I was told this is not a problem- Not a problem? Give me a break!! This nearly killed my application and cost me several weeks of work.
Told by whom?
Those who know of these problems can write clean applications but these issues are kept strictly confidential.
Isn't this dangerously close to a conspiracy theory?
Chris McDonough wrote:
Those who know of these problems can write clean applications but
these
issues are kept strictly confidential.
Isn't this dangerously close to a conspiracy theory?
Yes, he's right -- we hid the information on this top-secret thing called the "World Wide Web": http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZODB/ApplicationLevelConflictResolution Muhahaha! --Paul
Chris, I posted the bug at 11/30/2001 11:17 AM, a copy was also sent to chrism@zope.com- I am using a different e-mail now because my other e-mail address no longer receives messages from zope-dev. Clark --- Chris McDonough <chrism@zope.com> wrote:
I posted a serious bug- Zope throws an exception after trying to resolve a transaction conflict three times. The discussion was quickly moved
Posted to where? I see this message in neither Zope-Dev@ nor Zope@.
line and I was told this is not a problem- Not a problem? Give me a break!! This nearly killed my application and cost me several weeks of work.
Told by whom?
Those who know of these problems can write clean applications but these issues are kept strictly confidential.
Isn't this dangerously close to a conspiracy theory?
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I posted the bug at 11/30/2001 11:17 AM... <snip>
That's less than two hours ago. I didn't get the mail nor do I see it on Zope-dev. Is your assertion that I or someone else prevented it from showing up on Zope-dev? Who exactly was it that told you it wasn't a problem, and in what manner did they say it? Your complaint would be pretty funny if I knew that you weren't serious. It's actually pretty funny either way, come to think of it. ;-) - C
Clark, sorry to be blunt, but you're talking through your arse! you make some v. wild statements and offer no justification for them: i can only conclude that the application you refer to in fact suffered from the same flawed methodology... if you can be bothered, i would be interested to know exactly what it is you mean by the following: 1. "Zope has lost all of the advantages of being a freeware product" 2. "the extreme commercialization of Zope is hurting Zope" 3. "these issues [bugs] are kept strictly confidential" how is it you go about "reclaiming" something that was never yours? garry On 30 Nov 2001, at 10:03, Clark OBrien wrote: From: Clark OBrien <COBrien@isis-server.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> To: "'zope-dev@zope.org'" <zope-dev@zope.org> Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope has been Hijacked! Save Zope! Date sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:03:47 -0600
Thanks Andrew for a heartfelt description of what is happening here.
It is clear that unlike the other freeware products like Lenux, JBoss.., Zope has lost all of the advantages of being a freeware product.
What I find sad is that the extreme commercialization of Zope is hurting Zope- this discussion list is censored in a way that would not be allowed for most commercial products.
I posted a serious bug- Zope throws an exception after trying to resolve a transaction conflict three times. The discussion was quickly moved
line and I was told this is not a problem- Not a problem? Give me a break!! This nearly killed my application and cost me several weeks of work.
Those who know of these problems can write clean applications but these issues are kept strictly confidential.
To the *TRUE* open source community I would just say let us reclaim Zope-even if it means branching. Clark
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