Clark, sorry to be blunt, but you're talking through your arse! you make some v. wild statements and offer no justification for them: i can only conclude that the application you refer to in fact suffered from the same flawed methodology... if you can be bothered, i would be interested to know exactly what it is you mean by the following: 1. "Zope has lost all of the advantages of being a freeware product" 2. "the extreme commercialization of Zope is hurting Zope" 3. "these issues [bugs] are kept strictly confidential" how is it you go about "reclaiming" something that was never yours? garry On 30 Nov 2001, at 10:03, Clark OBrien wrote: From: Clark OBrien <COBrien@isis-server.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> To: "'zope-dev@zope.org'" <zope-dev@zope.org> Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope has been Hijacked! Save Zope! Date sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:03:47 -0600
Thanks Andrew for a heartfelt description of what is happening here.
It is clear that unlike the other freeware products like Lenux, JBoss.., Zope has lost all of the advantages of being a freeware product.
What I find sad is that the extreme commercialization of Zope is hurting Zope- this discussion list is censored in a way that would not be allowed for most commercial products.
I posted a serious bug- Zope throws an exception after trying to resolve a transaction conflict three times. The discussion was quickly moved
line and I was told this is not a problem- Not a problem? Give me a break!! This nearly killed my application and cost me several weeks of work.
Those who know of these problems can write clean applications but these issues are kept strictly confidential.
To the *TRUE* open source community I would just say let us reclaim Zope-even if it means branching. Clark
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