Hi Brian: I discussed with Michel Pelletier and he will help to produce a patch that exactly implements your proposal that we'll send to you for your review. Then we'll just provide an outside Product that calls the registration function. Thanks a lot for your suggestions... Aruna Kathiriya -----Original Message----- From: zope-dev-bounces@zope.org [mailto:zope-dev-bounces@zope.org] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:14 AM To: zope-dev@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Re: SOAP Support for ZOPE Hi all - having had to implement a monkey patch product before to enable SOAP, I'd like to make a few observations and a suggestion: - It is a pain to do anything with SOAP because the publisher has a hard-coded idea that anything xml must be xml-rpc - There is currently no easy way around this w/o monkey patching, which then leaves you vulnerable to future changes to the publisher - Opinions on the state of SOAP support in the Python world are far from unanimous - I think it would be premature to put a particular implementation into Zope proper - That said, Zope should make it possible for Cignex and others to provide SOAP support as add-on products without unreasonable contortions So the suggestion: I think we'd be in a better place if we: - Fix the publisher to at least recognize a SOAP request vs. an xml-rpc request - Provide some kind of 'registration hook' so that a Product can register with the publisher to handle SOAP requests - Have the publisher hand off where appropriate to a registered SOAP handler if installed, else return an HTTP NotImplemented or similar if there is no SOAP handler - Apply the KISS rule: only one product can register to the be the SOAP handler, and resist turning this into any kind of grand-unified-pluggable-publisher architecture ;) This would be minimally disruptive to the Zope core, while enabling people interested in SOAP to evolve different solutions without everybody having to buy into a particular approach or implementation right now. Brian Lloyd brian@zope.com V.P. Engineering 540.361.1716 Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com

-----Original Message----- From: zope-dev-bounces@zope.org [mailto:zope-dev-bounces@zope.org]On Behalf Of Tres Seaver Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:22 PM To: zope-dev@zope.org Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: SOAP Support for ZOPE

Florent Guillaume wrote:

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Richard wrote:

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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:54 am, Aruna Kathiria wrote:

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I did some work regarding SOAP support on ZOPE and published this document on zope.org.

Is there really no interest in getting SOAP support into the Zope core? I've got a guy working on some Microsoft Word stuff at the moment, and he was dumbfounded when he discovered that Zope doesn't support SOAP. In his words, "everyone supports SOAP". Sigh :)

There is probably interest, but it needs motivated people like Aruna

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and you to push it.

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Are there any objections to getting Aruna's patches into the 2.8 codebase? I'd be willing to do the work - but note I know practically nothing about SOAP - I just want to be able to use it.

One problem is that Aruna's approach introduces dependencies to external modules: fpconst, and a patched SOAPy. If these can be resolved, why

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not.

Because of those dependencies, I think support "in the core" is not feasible. However, I believe that it should be possible to create a product which solves those issues. This product would either need to monkey-patch the publisher (as outlined by John Zinit earlier in the thread) or else register a new kind of server, which could be configured (like the WebDAV source server) to listen on its own port.

For an example of such a Product, see "ZServerSSL", http://sandbox.rulemaker.net/ngps/zope/zssl/

Tres. -- =============================================================== Tres Seaver tseaver@zope.com Zope Corporation "Zope Dealers" http://www.zope.com

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