Hi Brian: I discussed with Michel Pelletier and he will help to produce a patch that exactly implements your proposal that we'll send to you for your review. Then we'll just provide an outside Product that calls the registration function. Thanks a lot for your suggestions... Aruna Kathiriya -----Original Message----- From: zope-dev-bounces@zope.org [mailto:zope-dev-bounces@zope.org] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:14 AM To: zope-dev@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Re: SOAP Support for ZOPE Hi all - having had to implement a monkey patch product before to enable SOAP, I'd like to make a few observations and a suggestion: - It is a pain to do anything with SOAP because the publisher has a hard-coded idea that anything xml must be xml-rpc - There is currently no easy way around this w/o monkey patching, which then leaves you vulnerable to future changes to the publisher - Opinions on the state of SOAP support in the Python world are far from unanimous - I think it would be premature to put a particular implementation into Zope proper - That said, Zope should make it possible for Cignex and others to provide SOAP support as add-on products without unreasonable contortions So the suggestion: I think we'd be in a better place if we: - Fix the publisher to at least recognize a SOAP request vs. an xml-rpc request - Provide some kind of 'registration hook' so that a Product can register with the publisher to handle SOAP requests - Have the publisher hand off where appropriate to a registered SOAP handler if installed, else return an HTTP NotImplemented or similar if there is no SOAP handler - Apply the KISS rule: only one product can register to the be the SOAP handler, and resist turning this into any kind of grand-unified-pluggable-publisher architecture ;) This would be minimally disruptive to the Zope core, while enabling people interested in SOAP to evolve different solutions without everybody having to buy into a particular approach or implementation right now. Brian Lloyd brian@zope.com V.P. Engineering 540.361.1716 Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com
-----Original Message----- From: zope-dev-bounces@zope.org [mailto:zope-dev-bounces@zope.org]On Behalf Of Tres Seaver Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:22 PM To: zope-dev@zope.org Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: SOAP Support for ZOPE
Florent Guillaume wrote:
Richard wrote:
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:54 am, Aruna Kathiria wrote:
I did some work regarding SOAP support on ZOPE and published this document on zope.org.
Is there really no interest in getting SOAP support into the Zope core? I've got a guy working on some Microsoft Word stuff at the moment, and he was dumbfounded when he discovered that Zope doesn't support SOAP. In his words, "everyone supports SOAP". Sigh :)
There is probably interest, but it needs motivated people like Aruna
and you to push it.
Are there any objections to getting Aruna's patches into the 2.8 codebase? I'd be willing to do the work - but note I know practically nothing about SOAP - I just want to be able to use it.
One problem is that Aruna's approach introduces dependencies to external modules: fpconst, and a patched SOAPy. If these can be resolved, why
not.
Because of those dependencies, I think support "in the core" is not feasible. However, I believe that it should be possible to create a product which solves those issues. This product would either need to monkey-patch the publisher (as outlined by John Zinit earlier in the thread) or else register a new kind of server, which could be configured (like the WebDAV source server) to listen on its own port.
For an example of such a Product, see "ZServerSSL", http://sandbox.rulemaker.net/ngps/zope/zssl/
Tres. -- =============================================================== Tres Seaver tseaver@zope.com Zope Corporation "Zope Dealers" http://www.zope.com
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