OK, it isn't just me, I've gotten email from others having this problem; unfortunately, I have had to tell them I still have it. I have tried using older pcgi code, I have tried the PCGI_FDS_CLOSE=0 variable, and still, nothing seems to work right. The second method worked once, but a reboot stopped that clean in it's tracks, and it doesn't work now. I've even tried combining both of the above; no luck. In the 2.2betas, and in 2.1.6, I could use ZServer and PCGI, but now, I get one or the other. Can someone at DC look into fixing this? We still get unable to connect errors, _even_ if the pcgi.soc file is created. I am getting this on _every_ 2.2.0 final server I have. On Linux and HPUX. Eagerly awaiting resolution ... Bill -- Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are easy to annoy, and have the root password.