Greetings Am forever looking for better/alternative ways to connect Zopesites and people [users] together... desktop network devices which are easy to install and use. For Zope-friendly tools which satisfy a "small cheap and out-of-control" approach. I have tried Director[with NetLingo], wxPython, and Flash5 [with ActionScript XMLObject]. Each has much to offer, but depending upon project requirements, are too complex or lack robust networking, or are platform-[uh]challenged. Yesterday I look again at REBOL which is known for its cross-platform, protocol-aware design simplicity. http://www.rebol.com I was delighted to discover a potent set of emerging additions for Shell cli, GUI construction, Database connectivity, security and more. A good place to start is with REBOL/View, which may offer a superb platform for creating enduser Zopelets... http://www.rebol.com/products.html http://www.rebol.com/pre-view.html http://www.rebol.com/docs.html An excellent learning site is: http://www.rebolforces.com/ Consider this gem: To email someone a web page: REBOL> send zope@zope.org read http://www.zope.org That's it :-) and yes it reads in a stream left to right I believe for Zopistas, there is a two-fold value in exploring REBOL + REBOL/View: - for its own out-of-box and extension usefulness - as inspiration and Zope wake-up call Two common tasks: a - uploading graphics or other files from client machines to Zopesite b - ways to simplify loading other data or configuration commands to Zope via email etc. enjoy ! -Jason Cunliffe