[...] [Tom Jenkins] Lets look at it another way. I'm pretty sure I know what you would you say if I said "Hey Albert, I would really like to have some monitoring stuff built in to zope. You really should do this for me." (Note to Paul: I haven't seen your fishbowl proposal for monitoring posted on dev.zope.org yet... guess _I'll_ have to write one, sheesh!) [...] [Albert] Not sure what you are referring to re "monitoring" (and not interested in the rest of your message). If it's what I think you might mean, I'm pretty sure I would say that I have been working on an async AgentX/JIDM agent for remote monitoring (and management) of python applications and may have something to contribute. So if that is relevant, please drop me a note if you do write such a proposal.