Hi Jason, I've been working with Flash some lately as well.. with an eye toward useful vector graphics for Zope. There is a library called ming (http://www.opaque.net/ming) with a (SWIG'ed) python extension that I've been slowing working through, adding wrapping fuctions and getting to the point of Zope'ability. Ming is a 'swf' creation library with no connection to Macromedia. Something like this would free folks from the need to buy 'MM Flash' to work with swf output. It also would make a great way to generate swf 'on the fly' within Zope.. I'll try to get a proof of concept working.... -steve
"Jason" == Jason Cunliffe <jasonic@nomadicsltd.com> writes:
Jason> Hello Jason> I am missing the start of this thread, so I may be off Jason> topic, but you might want to look seriously at Flash5 for Jason> the client side programming and graphics. Jason> PROS: Jason> 1. Flash5 ActionScript is _very_ close to JavaScript Jason> 2. Flash Player/Plugin is much smaller than SVG 300Kb Jason> vs. 13Mb I think + large user installed base. Jason> 3. Flash5 has new XML and XMLSockets objects which should Jason> integrate nicely with XMLRPC and Zope via some smooth Jason> Python external method programming. Jason> 4. Flash will allow _much_ more client side interactivity Jason> than SVG Jason> 5. You can port SVG graphics to Flash using various tools Jason> [or even write your own]. Jason> 6. You can still use SVG JavaScript and do some comparisons Jason> where appropriate... Jason> 7. Flash is more mature than SVG, though I agree SVG is Jason> developing very well. I expect we shall see some serious Jason> applications during next 12 months with it. Jason> 8. Flash is very object-oriented once you grok to its Jason> design. Thus mirrors Zope very well. Jason> CONS: Jason> A. Flash has steepish learning curve, but high payback and Jason> reusability. [Not as tough as Zope :-) ] B. SVG is fully Jason> open; the Flash spec is 'published' but not open in the Jason> same way. C. must be more but cant thing of them right now Jason> If you are interested contact me - I have lots of useful Jason> research on this topic. Jason> - Jason Jason> _______________________________________________________ Jason> Jason Cunliffe = Nomadics['Interactive Art+Technology'] >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hannu Krosing" >> <hannu@tm.ee> To: "David Nimmons" <David_Nimmons@huntsman.com> >> | David Nimmons wrote: >> | > >> | > I am trying to develop a web based interface to automation >> equipment (Allen | > Bradley plc's in this case) to use for an >> operator interface. I am Jason> using >> | > SVG to develop graphics and want to use javascript to >> manipulate the | > graphics based on data from the plc. I am >> looking for a way to pull Jason> more >> | > data from the server without having to reload the page. My >> question is will | > XML-RPC allow this. Or does Zope have some >> other mechanism that would allow | > this. Thanks for any help. >> | >> | Actually this is mainly a client-side problem, on server side >> you have | total | freedom to serve any protocol ;) >> | >> | Often this kind of problem is solved by having twho frames >> and data is | aquired | by reloading the "data-page" which then >> manipulates the | "presentation-page" | using javascript, >> possibly in its onLoad method. Jason> _______________________________________________ Zope Jason> maillist - Zope@zope.org Jason> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross Jason> posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - Jason> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Jason> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )