Well Gijs, you've got some points right in what you're saying BUT... If you know some HTML and Stylesheets why don't you revamp the interface yourself. I have. Look for dtml files in your Zope root. When you open them you'll see that it's good old HTML. I, for example, have a small monitor and not much space for long lists of objects, so I changed that in one single line of HTML. Neither did I like the boring white background. Change: <body> to <body bgcolor="color"> I used to think that Linux was ugly and Windows was nicer. Then I realized that if I spend a couple of mins on customizing Enlightment or KDE, I can have it exaclty the way I want it. Even better than Windows! Isn't Open Source software cute? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gijs Reulen <greulen@gilsing.nl> To: Mailinglist Zope <zope@zope.org> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:27 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] linuxworld article
Hi
I think the author is right about the interface of Zope. Take a look at what Enhydra has to offer: http://www.enhydra.org/software/ScreenShots.html What the author especially is missing in Zope is something line Enhydra DODS (Data Object Design Studio), an grafical interactive way to combine objects and relational data. And 'coming soon' an interactive app-builder... Zope Studio depends on Mozilla, but how long will that all take to complete ?
Besides laking a slick interface, Zope is missing the real interactivity Enhydra can offer; Java apps on the server and on the client can communicate directly and therefore make a lot more visually possible in terms of administration, debugging, etc.
A solution ?
Has anyone at Digital Creations yet taken a look at Beehive's MetaPublisher ? I think that is the way to go for the short term (Studio being long term) ! Nice looking browser interface, combining data and databases, wizards, etc.
Python and Zope has momentum NOW, but if we fail to deliver at least some of the features other platforms have (and the number will increase; for example with Borland Delphi comming to Linux, so will WebHUB, a webplatform for Delphi !) new users will be disappointed and go somewhere else. Zope deserves better then being a temporary hype :-(
http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2000-07/lw-07-penguin_2.html
Hmm...what is your opinion on the article above? I'm interested to see the author's comparison btwn Enhydra and Zope.
regards, firestar
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