Yes, I'm a zope newbie, but could someone enlighten me on the following senario. I use the following dtml to get a date time field.... <dtml-var ZopeTime> <input type='hidden' name='dateposted' value='<dtml-var ZopeTime fmt="%Y%m%d%H%M%S">' size=14> ... and it produces the following html source.... 2000/03/22 15:34:29.4534 Us/Central <input type='hidden' name='dateposted' value='20000322213429' size=14> As you can see, the plain ZopeTime products the proper out put of 3:34 (15:34) where the formated one to bring it down to what I want to store in the system is showing 9:34 (2134) which is the time zone offset of the time zone I am in (CST6CDT). Has anyone seen this before or is there a known cause/fix? I looked on the zope site and the archives for this list, but didn't find anything on it. I saw a lot of hits on Google for ZopeTime about not returning proper values and other 'weirdness'. Any help would be appreciated. chad