All: I figured I would survey this list for recommendations of zope packages that have minimal dependencies -- specifically for non-web, non-ZODB ZCA applications. My criteria for this minimal environment: 1. No ZCML, ZODB, or zope.app.* dependencies. 2. Egg available in cheeseshop; svn is okay too (e.g. zope.cachedescriptors trunk does not require ZODB; PYPI egg does at the moment). I will use zc.buildout and virtualenv for deployment environment. 3. Not specifically targeted at web applications only. Currently, I'm using zope.component, zope.interface, zope.schema, zope.datetime, zope.event, and a related but small set of dependencies installed from PYPI. Background: I'm working on a set of components for working with mass-media content that are to be generically useful across multiple environments, application frameworks (web and non-web), etc. The core of these components depends on some zope 3 libraries, but my goal is to keep dependencies to a minimum. A superset of this minimum framework would be used to deploy components to specific application environments including basic automation scripts to move content from one system to another, middleware applications exposing these components over XML-RPC, web applications in Z3, Django, and Plone/Z2. Any recommendations appreciated. Maybe compiling a list like this is helpful for the community to reach out to non-Zope python developers too -- makes the technology more approachable. Thanks, Sean +----------------------------------------------------------+ Sean Upton The San Diego Union-Tribune 619.293.1451 Systems Applications Supervisor - Newsroom Information Technology 350 Camino De La Reina San Diego, CA 92108 sean.upton@uniontrib.com +----------------------------------------------------------+