You need to use the MySQLDB thing. BRB..... -paste- http://www.zope.org/Members/alanpog/zmysqlda_steps go here .. This is almost perfect. Just run the patch and build ZmySQLdb again. When it is done there will be instructions after it builds that say run make install, make sure you do. It should work for you. I connected to the MySQL test DB just fine, of course there is nothing in there and I have to test it out a little better. -snip- This has help out others in the past. -- "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." -- Henry Spencer Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damage per incident.