Hi everyone, I tried to add the manage_users thing that someone referred me to (sorry that I don't remember who) and got the following error: Error Type: KeyError Error Value: __cmp__ my code is as follows: <table width="600" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tr class="one"> <td style="text-align:left" colspan="2"> User Name: <br><input name="name"> </td> </tr> <tr class="two"> <td style="text-align:left"> Password:<br> <input name="password"> </td> <td style="text-align:left"> Confirm Password: <br> <input name="confirm"> </td> </tr> <tr class="one" > <td style="text-align:left" colspan="2"> Role: <br> <SELECT NAME="roles:list" SIZE="5" MULTIPLE> <OPTION VALUE="Manager">Manager <OPTION VALUE="Owner">Owner <OPTION VALUE="User">User </SELECT> <br> <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" NAME="domains:tokens" VALUE="" SIZE="40"> </td> </tr> <tr class="two"> <td colspan="2"> <input type="submit" name="submit" value="Add"> </table> ---------END--------- to get the information and I'm using the code: <dtml-with acl_users> <dtml-call expr="manage_users(REQUEST)"> </dtml-with> to process it. I've taken the code pretty much directly from the acl_users folder's Add form... Anyone know what's going on? Thanks again for everyone's help. The _.str(date) thing worked perfectly with my Access date problem... Mike Kelland mike@studiomatic.com