Jim> == Jim Fulton >> == Magnus Lie Hetland >> In that case, it would be a good example for new users to learn >> from... Perhaps you could write up a page on how it is structured and >> what tricks you have used (for the automatic sidebar/header etc...) Jim> That's a good idea. Doesn't the DTML Source link in the bottom right-hand corner of each page handle much of that? It's not a complete picture, but it's a start. It would be nice to be able to see the definition of some of the properties like standard_html_header. I haven't played with the last two betas, but the output looks decidedly different than the what would be generated by the standard_html_header delivered with 1.9b1. Skip Montanaro | Mojam: "Uniting the World of Music" http://www.mojam.com/ skip@calendar.com | Musi-Cal: http://concerts.calendar.com/ 518-372-5583