I know, I'm an idiot for using Versions, but they've worked reasonably well for me for a while and they are very handy for my situation allowing me to make modifications in the background and more or less instantaneously commit them for all to see. I have a Version I've been working in now for about 3 weeks. I've modified and/or created around 50 new objects. No matter what I do I can neither Save or Discard this version. I've tried doing while working in the version, while not working in the version. I've packed the database two or three times. I've gone through and while working in the version I've resaved every single modified object. Nothing I do will result in the version being saved. At this point I've even tried to discard the version so it will free up the locks on the objects and even that won't work. I'm using Zope 2.6.1 with Python 2.1.3. If there is any other information I can provide please let me know. I'm getting desperate for a solution to this. Help me this time and I swear I will never use Versions again. Ken Causey