[Zope] - there's a nice debugger in idle

Zope has a section in:

http://lwn.net/1999/0114/devel.phtml

This may be a Sin Against Emacs, but.. Guido van Rossum's idle, mentioned in the above, also works very well for debugging a (zopehttpserver +) zope application. Whee, look at all those variables on display! I almost feel guilty.