I may be giving a presentation on Zope to our local Linux users group, and in an effort to be complete, and seem like I have researched other products well, I was wondering, what OTHER products are there that have similar featuresets to ZOPE? Including things like the version control, the database integration, and the scripting capabilities? I have looked around, and I can't seem to find anything that does. Am I just missing it? It seems like some products have some features, and other have others, but none have them all the features ZOPE has. Also, what, besides a Rapid Development GUI system, is ZOPE missing that these others have? Is ASP a competitor to ZOPE? PHP? Seems like these are both just plain scripting systems. They don't do the version control or anything that ZOPE does. -- "Never face facts; if you do, you'll never get up in the morning." -- Marlo Thomas