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I don't like at all this BLIND PROGRAMMING! Do you?
Did I also mention Zope Zen? It sounds all cutesy and such, but it's real. There's a part where you just have to accept things on a certain level. The REQUEST is one of those things. There's other stuff, too, I'm sure...but I haven't gotten there yet. Recently one of the Zope gods mentioned that he was surprised that people seemed to be less interested in how to get stuff working quickly, and more interested in how things worked (or something to the effect). People do want to know the nuts and bolts, rather than ....well, here's the quote from Chris McDonough: "The original aim of the Zope Book was to provide "instant gratification" to its reads by way of introducing simple applications straight away. But I've found that, by far, the people who are reading and commenting on the book want more often to know *why* something is the way it is than how to do it once by example." This is from a post of his from 7/26/02... HTH... Russell - -- Linux -- the OS for the Renaissance Man -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9TnTkAqKGrvVshJQRAtYcAJ92MmzHC9YPx6IdUjovc7dNWXIWGwCgrdLm XAQlAoTY3ermeKVEv1bURfk= =pU5s -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----