<unrequested comment> I like the idea of the online magazine, and can understand why they charge, but considering it's brand new, they should give a xx weeks free trial, and then a paid subscription. Moreover, they should give more choices like monthly, quarterly, etc. Instead of only Annual. One more idea, why not another option to pay only for the article you want to see if it's really hot? Say 50 cents for the article, and you can view it unlimited times for 24 hours. Just a thought. I understand that the time when everything was free on the web is over, but I think an attractive price is more likely to bring lots of paid subscribers than a high priced one. </unrequested comment> Marcello Parra Martins wrote:
I agree with you, but as a beginner, this magazine could be a good font of information to me. But I think they've made some mistakes:
- why they did not offer the magazine free for some time, until they have some more content ?
- how many articles will be published each month ??
- it's very expensive for a new online magazine. Take the example of Newsweak: you subscribe for a year (108 PRINTED issues) for about US$ 75,00. Zope magazine is 90 Euros (about US$ 80), more than a weekly (printed and delivered) magazine. Sorry, but too expensive.
I repeat: it's a great idea, but not the way they've made it.
Thanks, Marcello Parra
----- Original Message ----- From: "Heimo Laukkanen" <huima@fountainpark.org> To: <mark@beehive.de> Cc: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: [Zope] Zope magazine
Hi Mark ( and everyone on the c:d zope-mailinglist),
just stumbled into Zopemag-site and saw what you at behiive have been up to (http://zopemag.com/Issue001/index.html). My first thougth was that what a nice idea, untill I realized that it isn't that great idea - since the magazine is based on paid subscriptions.
I do know that people need to get paid for their work, but that also raises the question about what people are getting for the money they pay. For example judging by the first issue ( it is not fair to judge by the covers, I know ) , there isn't much to pay for yet.
I am all up to educating people more about zope and canonical documents like good howto's reports, articles and books are propably the best guidance -- and after that people need technical documentation. Zopemag now raises a couple of questions:
1) What is editorial policy: - who can and will contribute - what do you will pay for the contributors
2) Openess policy - how much content will be open in the future for example would something like making the previous numbers free be out of the question? - what open services will be developed?
If the world would be ideal place, I would like to see something like zopemag as a completely open system, or partly paid and for example archive as open content. I feel that magazine like content is really good to tie thing together and get people to find products and other howto's that migth interst them.
Of course my point of view is only about educating people and myself, since I do not make money out of selling Zope-knowledge, even though I make money out of creating services and applications with Zope.
Please answer and start discussion about what community could do to support something like zopemag and vice versa. I feel that if made well, something like zopemag could be really good -- like the really active personal zope-portals have sofar been.
By the way - the idea of zope in intranet's is really well. I am just finishing my thesis to a polytechnic about building intranet to support implementation of strategy -- and supprise supprise as a case example I present an intranet built with Zope and CMF.
-huima
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