Apologies if these are oft-asked q's but I can't find an obvious answer anywhere in the docs. It seems that if I put the simplest dtml-tree <dtml-tree> <dtml-var id> <dtml-tree> in a dtml method it works ok. If i put it in a dtml doc it doesn't. If I put it in a method then refer to that in a doc (with <dtml-var> that doesn't work either. Therefore if I want to use a tree I have to use a method. Is that correct? This brings up several q's. 1. How can I call a method and have it do its stuff from a doc? Tried evey which way but I can't get a tree to work by doing this. 2. Since I can't find anything I can't do with a method why have docs at all? 3. What is the most important piece of understanding I am missing to figure out answers to9 these q's. Andy ------------------------------------------------- Andy Heath a.k.heath@open.ac.uk The Open University +44 (0) 114 2885738