for those who have tried loginmanager: I've been trying to install and use loginmanager but it seems too complicated and undocumented (zope 2.3.0, python 1.5.2) I've followed some SQL/LoginManager howto without success, but before trying to get this working, I'd like to know some more about login manager if I do select a folder : security: add role , will that role get added to the loginmanager user source or do I have to map roles manually? can I add users, change passwords, etc, the way I currently do ? (select acl_users folder, click "add" or "delete" button, select a user, and change its password, etc) I mean, can a acl_users folder with loginmanager act the same way it does now (except that will authenticate with a form, and storing users on a SQL) please let me know if you know any documentation other than reading the loginmanager source code (which is not my idea at all) Thanks Alex