I added <dtml-var error_tb> to my standard_error_message so I could get tracebacks. Unfortunately, the information displayed isn't always enough to tell me where the error actually occurred (e.g., "AttributeError... __call__" doesn't mention any actual objects in my script), and the line numbers are off by some amount because of the missing function stuff and the boilerplate comments placed at the head of the script when I edit it via ftp. Is there some sort of fixed offset I can use to calculate the actual line number of the error in my Python script? Alternately, can I tweak the <dtml-var error_tb> stuff to get a complete traceback which includes Python source? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com http://www.mojam.com/ http://www.musi-cal.com/