[Zope] VerboseSecurity and zope 2.8.5

I'm not getting any verbose security messages in my zope 2.8.5. zope.conf reads: security-policy-implementation python verbose-security on I'm trying to log in as a user but get rejected which is probably because I've incorrectly configured one method or object to require one permission too many. I've tried looking in error_log, event.log and the printed output from ./bin/runzope Any ideas? -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com